"but THAT behavior isn’t rape culture."
just because you do it doesn’t mean it isn’t rape culture… maybe instead of trying to twist definitions to fit your fucked up behavior you should instead consider modifying said fucked up behavior, asshole
Rape culture doesn’t…
It is simply false to say that rape culture does not exist in the west.
Your grounds seemed to be “there is no rape culture here in the Free and Civilised West because people aren’t raped frequently and openly.” But a rape culture (according to nearly every definition that I’ve seen and that’s available on the first few pages of google) is basically a culture in which rape is trivialized/normalized/excused/ignored.
A prevalent idea like “she was asking for it” or “men don’t get raped” is one of the countless manifestations of rape culture. And if you don’t think that it’s rape culture, then you have the wrong definition. And if you don’t think that it’s prevalent, then you aren’t paying attention.
Actually my grounds were “rape is illegal in this country and is seen as a bad thing by pretty much everyone here”, which is true. Rape in prisons is ignored, and rape out in certain countries in Africa and the Middle East is ignored when convenient, or the victim is vilified. That is a culture of rape.
I very much am paying attention, to the whole world, which is why I think that acting like the West lives in a rape culture is hellishly trivialising to actual places that have it. I agree there is an issue with rape apology and such (not that that is the only crime that has that problem), but in no way does the West have one. The idea was taken from US male prisons; that is the scale of rape culture needed before a country should be considered having one.
You seem to have an arbitrary threshold of what constitutes a rape culture. Yes, the term originated in the context of prisons, but it has a much broader reach now. Since you aren’t satisfied by the definition I compiled, here are some sources that would argue that places in the West have a rape culture and/or give examples:
This is not to say that it is worse here than in other places. There are vile, senseless things happening legally to people all over the world, And they should not be ignored. But pointing out a problem in one place does not trivialize a different or worse problem in another place.
And by the way, “rape is illegal in this country and is seen as a bad thing by pretty much everyone here” is not entirely true. Rape isn’t entirely illegal in a place in which people include “forcible” in the definition of rape, implying that people without evidence of physically fighting back are not rape. (For example “a U.S. state in which, in September 2012, mentally disabled rape victim was required to provide evidence of her “kicking, biting, scratching” in objection to her rape” (for more go to http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri_for_rap-crime-forcible-rape)). Or when “ The appeals court said that when the jury asked the trial judge if a woman could withdraw her consent after the start of sex, the jury should have been told she could not.”http://www.shakesville.com/2006/10/narrow-window-when-no-means-no.html. And sure when asked most people would say rape is bad, but the same people are far more likely to blame the victim or to accuse the victim of lying at a significantly higher rate than with other crimes.
And you can find significantly more on google scholar (more academic sources), by searching different terms (like the effect of jokes on perception of rape, etc) and going past the third page of google. I’m sorry if this sounds condescending, but there is simply a gigantic body of literature, statistics, anecdotes, and evidence of rape culture if your definition expands beyond “places where people are raped legally and frequently” (which, I reiterate, according to the majority of sources, is not what rape culture is limited to).